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Queen of the Dead 53

posted 27th Oct 2021, 2:21 AM

Queen of the Dead 53
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27th Oct 2021, 2:21 AM

agnosis

According to the Homeric Hymn to Demeter, Persephone was picking roses, crocuses, violets, irises and hyacinths when she was abducted. However, what the ancient Greeks called hyacinth was probably not the same flower that we today call hyacinth. It has been suggested that it maybe was larkspur. I changed it to grape hyacinths. I skipped the crocuses because I wasn’t sure if they really bloom in late spring/early summer when my comic takes place (in my Swedish translation of the Hymn it says that Persephone was picking saffron, referring to the saffron crocus, I assume. But it blooms in autumn).

On the other hand, Persephone could probably grow any flower she wants even if it wasn’t the right season, so I don’t know why I put so much research into this… XD

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27th Oct 2021, 12:05 PM

Guest

If the kidnapping of Persephone causes the first winter, doesn't it make more sense that it happens in autumn?

Although on the other hand, if that was the first winter, then there could not already be flowers that bloom in atumn. It's a sort of paradox.

Maybe before Persephone's kidnapping there were no seasons so flowers bloomed at random.

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3rd Nov 2021, 1:05 AM

agnosis

The seasons already exist in my version, since I thought it would be too unrealistic if they didn't (yeah, I know, immortal gods aren't exactly realistic either, but I want to keep some things more realistic).

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30th Oct 2021, 3:09 AM

Pat (Guest)

According to Liddell & Scott's Lexicon the larkspur was ὑάκινθος σπαρτή, uakinthos sparte, meaning the cultivated or Spartan hyacinth. Probably simply from its similar colour, I suppose. This was the one connected to Hyacinthus, the Spartan lover of Apollo and remembered with a lot of weeping. There was also a ὑάκινθος πορφυρέη, uakinthos porphuree, purple hyacinth that they think could have been a martagon lily.

They thought the simple hyacinth was perhaps Scilla bifolia, a scented blue-flowered bulb. Though I would have thought that it would be a species from the Ionian parts of the Greek world, like Scilla bithynia.

They thought the ἀγαλλίς was the dwarf Iris attica (aka Iris pumila ssp. attica), which varies from purple to yellow. They may reach 15cm tall. Your irises look very like that species.

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3rd Nov 2021, 1:06 AM

agnosis

I think it was the dwarf iris I used as a model here actually. Thank you for the info!

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